Would you like to see Pope John Paul II sainted?

I want to see him dead because he knows he is the antichrist :@

Since I’m not Catholic, I couldn’t care less who they make a saint, or how fast they do it in.

i find it funny that he sainted all those people and now he’s the one being sainted(hopefully)

All Christians are Saints. They do not need a human to bestow a Spiritual gift.

I could care less about an office that is based on heresy to start with. it is not spirtitual with the popes it is all political.

Wouldn’t he last longer if he was stained first…

and then varnished.

Oh! You said “sainted”!

Never mind…

ASAP please. One of the greatest man in this planet.

I am not aware of any miracles associated with him.

Miracles are a prerequisite to being called a saint by the RC Church.

A person isn’t made a saint, merely recognized as one.

I don’t see why there would be any problem in recognizing him as such, he was clearly a good person. All that has to occur is the two miracles therein to indicate that he is a saint.

No, I would not care to see him recognized as a saint. But whether he is or not is not mine nor the Churches call. Just the official recognition.

To Alice below. 5 years is still more emotion then objective. You know it was John Paul II that put in the 5 year. Before it used to be 50 years when everyone who was involved pretty much would have been dead so it couldn;t be pushed for like now.

>>Would you like to see Pope John Paul II sainted?< <

God makes saints; the Catholic Church merely canonizes.

>>Do you see anything wrong with fast tracking him through the process?<<

YES. There is a five-year waiting period for a reason — to help prevent canonizations that are based on emotion rather than holiness.

I never thought he was a particularly good bishop or Pope to begin with. At Vatican II his only noteworthy moment was that he was the sole Iron Curtain cleric who, instead of criticizing the practices of the Communist regimes, parroted the party line.
On the other hand, although only there as Priest-Perritis (expert theological advisers to the College of Cardinals), Hans Kung and John Ratzinger boldly advanced the cause of Church reform at the Council.
Kung and Ratzinger have since charted different courses. Since the parting of JP-II they have had a public reconciliation.

If by “sainted” you mean the Roman Catholic Church recognizing that he was instrumental in ending Communism in Poland and led a holy life I would say ABSOLUTELY!

If you mean what Protestants ASSUME that all means; what we make an idol of him or judge him to be perfect and without human flaws, absolutely NOT.

JP II was a very good Pope. He publicly forgave the man who tried to assassinate him. What more Jesus-like thing could any of us ever do? Even Protestants will often refer to their “saintly mothers.” There is NOTHING wrong in our belief in declaring that a person lived a life worthy of emulation .

Hi Panther! I think normal protocol should be followed. I loved the man, don’t get me wrong, but the beatification process should remain the same. Your article refers to a miracle in France, however I know of a priest who nominated a miracle in Chicago after a young man survived a horrible accident he was not expected to survive. The priest had laid a rosary ( one of 6 I believe) Pope John Paul II had given him in person for special cases at the hospital. The man survived against all odds. That miracle is currently in the process of being verified, which by the way, our current Pope has made much more difficult to do.

Anyway, is Pope JPII in heaven? Very likely! However we should stick to our own rules and do this properly.

I’m not a Catholic, and the Catholic church is, of course, perfectly entitled to do whatever it chooses within its own sphere. But it upsets me deeply that a man who was so reactionary, who made it impossible for the condom message to get through to people at serious risk of HIV, should be considered so holy. Don’t get me wrong, he did a good job of dramatically improving relations between Catholics and Jews, and I appreciate him for that.

Maybe all I’m saying is that temperamentally I could never have been a Catholic and I find the whole sainthood and miracles stuff a bit bonkers anyway; and I’d prefer anti-contraception, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, anti-women’s equality people to be seen as belonging entirely to the wrong side of honour..